Comments on: Interoperability: Check your politics at the door

by: JVaughan

Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:16:41 +0000

TSS Interop Blogger Dino Chiesa writes: Because software has got to work, that means it must be practical. Asking the question that Ted proposed - What tools do we have available to make our systems work together? often might be translated not to “what new tools are out there that I can buy?” but rather “what is running in the shop today? What do we have skills with today? What are we comfortable running today, operationally? What can we afford to use, given our existing resources, financial and otherwise?”

Often the answer that comes back to these questions is a pile of seemingly unrelated stuff, which at first does not look like it fits the bill. Like the crew of Apollo 13, the challenge to us is to take that pile of duct tape, gauze pads, and 3-in-1 oil (you and I both know that every enterprise that has been around since before June has a mishmash of systems) - you have to take that pile of stuff and connect systems together, practically.

by: Leonid Tomilchik

Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:34:20 +0000

I would add to the title “…check your politics and *religion* at the door”, but this is sure not to go down well in the US. To me, the ferocity and strong-headedness of Java-vs-.NET debates, and oftentimes, sheer irrationality of expressed opinions and positions, sounds very religious: “It is so because the Book says so”; and “The ‘other’ guys are infidels”.

by: Jack Webb

Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:03:04 +0000

Let’s send an envoy over to TSS.COM?
[From the ServerSide.Net
In the spirit of harmony let’s send somebody over to http://www.theserverside.com and offer an olive branch. Okay, so, who can we send? I know you’re out there, we need one brave soul …

by: Andrew Clifford

Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:38:42 +0000

From TheServerSide.com:

Ted is putting the onus on developers to find the value that neither Microsoft nor the Java community seem willing to promote. Ted is a really smart guy, great book writer, and avid fence rider. Unfortunately, most of us are just trying to keep up with either camp. Our IT management is trying to not look stupid by flip-flopping on architectures or diluting the developer and systems management knowledge-base by supporting two camps. Ted is trying to show the value but there has to be critical mass or at lest movement on WS-* to get going.

by: Time Passx

Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:36:50 +0000

Maybe it would be more helpful (and certainly less sensational) to see “politics” here simply as memory/experience with certain vendors who go out of their way to lock you into their One True Way at the expense of interoperability with tools from other vendors.

Indeed many vendors are guilty here, but I shun all that are in favor of those who try to compete by offering the best implementation of accepted standards.

by: Dino

Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:39:08 +0000

Ted, I like the way you think!